tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post6134541732041697945..comments2019-11-19T17:31:32.355-08:00Comments on The Entrecarder: Entrecard's Disconnect with Realitybiz beaconhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15483379762578763528noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-70513652858241739792008-04-02T09:14:00.000-07:002008-04-02T09:14:00.000-07:00Traffic is traffic. It's up to us how to convince ...Traffic is traffic. It's up to us how to convince our visitors to stay long and read our posts. I am viewing blog posts as I drop but if the article is not as interesting as this one, who would care to waste their time to read and post a comment?<BR/><BR/>Actually, I also made some posts about Entrecard esp. how to convince visitors to be readers, and how to maximze the dropping. Nope, it's not a software. It's practical approach.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this nice post.Angelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01855589155644685869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-15404078450137470422008-04-02T07:49:00.000-07:002008-04-02T07:49:00.000-07:00Everyone of these deals that comes out promises re...Everyone of these deals that comes out promises readers; the most they can deliver is hits.<BR/><BR/>As long as you get the hits, some of them will actually read and (if it's free) will make it worth it ;)Lord Nazhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00251537214808629536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-85359494373535955862008-04-01T22:27:00.000-07:002008-04-01T22:27:00.000-07:00I'm new to this whole entrecard thing, and to be h...I'm new to this whole entrecard thing, and to be honest I'm finding it hard to see the point. Surely the effect is no better than blogexplosion. All that will happen is that someone comes onto you site, scrolls to the entrecard, drops theirs and moves on. How can that be good for any site?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-58720228500363903922008-04-01T12:13:00.000-07:002008-04-01T12:13:00.000-07:00Good article - I read it all the way through. I ag...Good article - I read it all the way through. I agree and my card drops have slowed to between 50-100/day. I may fall out of 3rd place as a result but I'm learning a lot more than I was by dropping 300 a day.Offgridhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01104518657168420900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-44361598760667357972008-04-01T10:56:00.000-07:002008-04-01T10:56:00.000-07:00Well written and great points you make! I'm new t...Well written and great points you make! I'm new to entrecard myself and must admit that although I do glance over the blogs, I only read the ones that interest me. I don't think the whole entrecard economy is conducive to actively participate or 'favorite' blogs (although your article was good enough for me to stumble it )<BR/><BR/>Now, entrecard discusses the whole 'commuter' concept -which is probably all you get from the system - that and some entrecard points.. If your site is appealing enough - maybe just maybe, some card dropper will actually stick around to see if there is anything interesting to read - although the way I see it - it's mostly drop and run (my statistics back that up as well...) while traffic from other referrers and searches keep visitors on my site an average of 14 minutes or so, entrecard traffic averages at a whopping 37 seconds (I guess that's the time it takes for the page to load, the card to be dropped and the Thanks! message to be displayed)<BR/><BR/>But that's just my 2 cents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-49862774236176725192008-04-01T06:20:00.000-07:002008-04-01T06:20:00.000-07:00Jordan, I chuckled when I read your comment, not k...Jordan, <BR/><BR/>I chuckled when I read your comment, not knowing if you had your tongue in your cheek or not. I DO have a 10 year old son whom I used to pay to drop cards for me on some of my Entrecard accounts, but he quickly got bored of the process and begged off. <BR/><BR/>Note: Jordan has an interesting site at <A HREF="http://money-from-photos.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Make Money From Photos Online</A> that describes his online income activities from his other site, <A HREF="http://irishviews.com/" REL="nofollow">IrishViews.com</A>biz beaconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15483379762578763528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-29506023357960542612008-04-01T06:08:00.000-07:002008-04-01T06:08:00.000-07:00I agree it is a pain, and you would be lucky if 1%...I agree it is a pain, and you would be lucky if 1% of people dropping cards actaully read even one of your posts..<BR/><BR/>Maybe if you have a 10 year old child with time on their hands..?Jordan McClementshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15135205249153364285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-73737029464447518612008-03-31T21:01:00.000-07:002008-03-31T21:01:00.000-07:00@Coffeesister (Carpe Coffee |_|))I think your view...@Coffeesister (<A HREF="http://coffeesister.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Carpe Coffee |_|)</A>)<BR/><BR/>I think your viewpoint is more representative of good, successful bloggers than mine is. Really this article is about allowing us all to use the Entrecard tool as we see fit, as long as it doesn't violate the Entrecard TOS.<BR/><BR/>@nabin, <BR/><BR/>It's true that this article has generated more comments than just about any previous article I've written. Maybe it was the somewhat controversial title? I'm a big fan of the Entrecard community and appreciate that Graham and Phirate don't try and rule it with an iron fist and are open to member suggestions. Thanks for your comment! (nabin has two blogs listed on his profile, <A HREF="http://ajabgajab.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Time!</A> and <A HREF="http://nabinkm.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">My Frame of Reference</A>.<BR/><BR/>@jo, (<A HREF="http://cornerscribe.com/wordpress/" REL="nofollow">CornerScribe</A>)<BR/><BR/>I've never been a great networker, but I have no doubt you'll have more fun and build your blog faster by networking than just dropping cards. Thanks for the stumble!<BR/><BR/>@pamps, <BR/><BR/>You've helped make my point that some of us read blogs, just not while we are in dropping mode. Thanks.biz beaconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15483379762578763528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-9811849252622360202008-03-31T20:12:00.000-07:002008-03-31T20:12:00.000-07:00I drop 300 cards a day and yes I dont read blogs w...I drop 300 cards a day and yes I dont read blogs when I do dropping of my card but I make sure that I'll go back to the site of members that is worth reading like this one. Besides 300 drops can be made in just an hour or maybe 30 minutes if you have a very fast connection. If you know how. <BR/><BR/>-Pamps<BR/><A HREF="http://flowman315.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Pamps' Blog Corner</A><BR/><A HREF="http://flowman315.wordpress.com/" REL="nofollow">The Expedition</A><BR/><A HREF="http://pampsvideos.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Pamps' Compilation of Videos</A>Pampshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05060517301639969950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-56735045503648373562008-03-31T19:37:00.000-07:002008-03-31T19:37:00.000-07:00Hi biz, True that. Different strokes for different...Hi biz, <BR/><BR/>True that. Different strokes for different folks. :)<BR/><BR/>EntreCard is a bizarre system that way: advertising with social networking aspects. It's definitely a blessing for blogs that are starting up, and you can still drive traffic without placing a single ad just by being sociable/reciprocal. <BR/><BR/>And the economic system of credits of course allows people to be more flexible than most social networking. <BR/><BR/>EntreCard: I just ain't got it all figured out.Arachne Jerichohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06168877097725111802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-22121447661556035392008-03-31T18:00:00.000-07:002008-03-31T18:00:00.000-07:00Good post. I don't drop very many cards per day, b...Good post. I don't drop very many cards per day, but I do take time to skim the first post, sometimes comment and sometimes stumble. I'm more interested in the networking possibilities of Entrecard than earning ec.<BR/><BR/>BTW, I stumbled your post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-70569813460516040812008-03-31T15:54:00.000-07:002008-03-31T15:54:00.000-07:00Hmm ...What is "quality article?" This would be go...Hmm ...<BR/><BR/>What is "quality article?" This would be good question.<BR/><BR/>I drop and hence i read.<BR/>If you want to measure the popularity on the scale of comment; you will be doomed to write more "hottie"!<BR/><BR/>Great content!<BR/><A HREF="http://ajabgajab.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">nabin</A>NKMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13733726381927151064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-13861875516824984802008-03-31T15:33:00.000-07:002008-03-31T15:33:00.000-07:00While I definitely see the potential for making mo...While I definitely see the potential for making money, my first concern is traffic.. In my own Entrecard-dropping, I try to reciprocate before going from blog to blog & - as I do scan each blog I'm dropping on, stopping to read what catches my interst - it's my <B><I>hope </I></B>SOME who drop their Entrecards on my blog do the same!? Thanx for your thoughts; hits versus views have been much on my mind. ^_^<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://coffeesister.net" REL="nofollow">Drink Deeply [of me])</A><BR/>"You're only here for a short visit. Don't hurry, don't worry. And be sure to smell the flowers along the way." ~ Walter Hagencoffeesisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17531266990428608506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-11948642546273140082008-03-31T08:58:00.000-07:002008-03-31T08:58:00.000-07:00Arachne, Thanks for commenting! It does make a dif...Arachne, <BR/><BR/>Thanks for commenting! It does make a difference why one is involved in the Entrecard community (hence my newest poll) and I think you make your point well in your post <A HREF="http://www.spontaneousderivation.com/2008/03/24/getting-the-most-out-of-entrecard-5-benefits-i-reaped-beyond-hits-or-ads/#more-852/" REL="nofollow">Getting the Best Out of Entrecard: 5 Benefits I Reaped Beyond Hits or Ads</A>. Your statement, "Entrecard is a social networking system", expresses how you see Entrecard, whereas I see Entrecard as an opportunity to make money. No wonder you feel differently than I do! Fortunately, the Entrecard community is large enough to accommodate both of us. :-)<BR/><BR/>Note: Arachne is the author of <A HREF="http://www.spontaneousderivation.com/" REL="nofollow">SpontaneousDerivation.com</A>.biz beaconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15483379762578763528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-13337203921186643792008-03-31T08:23:00.000-07:002008-03-31T08:23:00.000-07:00I don't drop 300 cards a day, and I suppose I do r...I don't drop 300 cards a day, and I suppose I do read a lot of blog entries. But the saving point is that most blogs don't update every single day, so at any one point in time you don't really have "# of drops today" entries to read. You might have perhaps a quarter that. <BR/><BR/>So I think that point is a bit exaggerated. (And this also splashes your first point.)<BR/><BR/>As for RSS feeds, they aren't all they're cracked up to be. My RSS feed inbox is pretty heavy, and if the point of feeds is for people to have a higher probability of reading articles, that's a bit questionable (and there have been some articles in the blogosphere to this point, such as on Skelliewag and Problogger). Whether people who actually visit everyday or people who just subscribe that have a more intimate relationship with your site, it's probably more of a wash than it's made out to be. <BR/><BR/>Most folks aren't power droppers, either, and apparently there are quite a few who are along for the scenery.Arachne Jerichohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06168877097725111802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-73086147738285015222008-03-31T06:44:00.000-07:002008-03-31T06:44:00.000-07:00Nice article Mr. Biz Beacon,(forgive me I searched...Nice article Mr. Biz Beacon,(forgive me I searched a bit but didn't find your real name on the front page). Yeah, a 300-per day dropper I too find it difficult to go through anything more than a 100 posts on any day while dropping, I ought to improve, as the benefits are anything <BR/>but symbiotic. By the way I had passed your entrebank blog, I have something like 5000 idle credits on my account and am willing to sell for the cheapest prices than everyone in the market. Say $25 per 3000? If you like the price or you want to partner with me plz drop by<BR/>a message on my blog http://palanthirofisengard.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>or mail me at rahuliit2003@yahoo.co.inRahul Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194965723354916976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-64255400919278640302008-03-31T06:20:00.000-07:002008-03-31T06:20:00.000-07:00Monique, You bring up a point that I should clarif...Monique, <BR/><BR/>You bring up a point that I should clarify regarding blogs worth reading and my particular interests. There are many, many good blogs in the Entrecard community that are entertaining and interesting to many, many people. The dictates of my family responsibilities don't allow for my casual perusing and enjoyment of most of these fine blogs. There is always something else that I should be doing in place of reading blogs and so I end up skipping past much of what I see, unless something catches my eye or attention and warrants further review. I hope that I don't come across as viewing others' blogs are being without value or uninteresting in general, for that is not how I feel. The truth is I don't have the luxury of time to read even a small fraction of the blogs that I drop cards on.biz beaconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15483379762578763528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-73942437818430463472008-03-30T21:43:00.000-07:002008-03-30T21:43:00.000-07:00My blog is interesting enough for you to read on a...My blog is interesting enough for you to read on a daily basis :)... or at least I hope it is.<BR/><BR/>But I agree, I do a lot of dropping and after I weed out all the money makers and the gossip, there isn't much left to read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-29701676636944940242008-03-30T20:02:00.000-07:002008-03-30T20:02:00.000-07:00VERY interesting post, biz beacon. I would only ad...VERY interesting post, biz beacon. I would only add that, with the new "EC credits are easily sold" policies, even fewer articles will be read. Let's face it; if you're picking cotton, do you take the time to look at every plant after you've cleared the crop? If you want to view my take on the whole thing, visit:<BR/> the-blog-lab.blogspot.com.<BR/>[You will have to go in a few postings to find my three-part overview of the EntreCard "lifestyle". Hope you do...Mike Rileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01404302177748811370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-13518091209967427162008-03-30T10:05:00.000-07:002008-03-30T10:05:00.000-07:00Ha! When I write I don't actually think that anyon...Ha! When I write I don't actually think that anyone will read the entire post, so thanks to those that do.<BR/><BR/>The comments section of Blogger leaves much to be desired and one of the problems is the way it handles backlinks (or maybe it's just my lack of expertise), so here's some clarification:<BR/><BR/>Nur atari writes a blog called SN-UM which can be found at <A HREF="http://nuratari.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">http://nuratari.blogspot.com/</A><BR/><BR/>and<BR/><BR/>Margaret writes <A HREF="http://Eyespi20.com/" REL="nofollow">Eyespi20.com</A>biz beaconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15483379762578763528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-23612546741229205802008-03-30T09:34:00.000-07:002008-03-30T09:34:00.000-07:00Very well written article and I read every word of...Very well written article and I read every word of it. <BR/><BR/>I'm a 300 per day dropper myself and like you, seldom read every blog I drop on although I will skim at least the first post.<BR/><BR/>I have found way too many blogs that are 300 per-day droppers are not updating content on a daily basis -- or even a weekly basis when it comes down to it. I'm not saying you HAVE to write a post a day -- I don't, but I think you need to write often as in 2-3 times per week if you're going to be a "good blogger". <BR/><BR/>Commenting on other sites and posts was where I was sadly lacking and where I am trying to do a better job. I am seeing increased traffic to my own blog because of my increased participation in other blogs, so if nothing else, EntreCard has helped me vastly in that regard. It's taught me how to be a GREAT blogger which in my definition is someone who writes good, original content on their own blog, then visits and comments on good, original content on other blogs.<BR/><BR/>It takes a lot of time to do all this. Fortunately, I read and type pretty fast which is a huge help, but realize that I am not the "norm" among readers and writers. It's one of the reasons I'm in a top spot, though -- that and the work ethic I have when it comes to EntreCard, my blog and my writing.<BR/><BR/>While EntreCard may have a disconnect with reality as you put it, it's not a big one as from other posts I've read, Graham and Phirate seem to be very in tune with what it takes to make their system work for someone. Perhaps the answer they gave to this particular issue wasn't as well thought out or phrased as it could have been, but I'm pretty sure they're in the know about the general practices among the community members. I think that's one of the reasons for the 300 maximum. It may have been an arbitrary number that needs to be adjusted, but it's as good a starting point as any, plus it's easy to remember and 3 brings good luck :)<BR/><BR/>ê¿êTestuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04146747929425023053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294557877444793715.post-82952910307126317992008-03-30T08:40:00.000-07:002008-03-30T08:40:00.000-07:00oh.... i read your article carefully before i drop...oh.... i read your article carefully before i dropped my card... (for you not to say that card dropping is useless).... have a nice day my friend... thanks for theat very "hot" post......SN-UMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03778780762322340631noreply@blogger.com